New Area (N of Holdings of Chokhin) - Real or Fake? - Guild Wars Forums

xis10al · Dec 10, 2006, 10:15 PM // 22:15

Okay, recently on GuildWiki, someone posted the following map stating that they were playing around and came across a new area north of the Holdings Of Chokhin. Here's the link to the map.

http://image.to/show.php/1439_elonanewpart.gif.html

They don't mention how they happened to "discover" this new area, but looking at my own map, you can make out the details of what could be a real area.

Since coming across this new map, I've went all through the Holdings of Chokhin and The Hidden City of Ahdashim looking for anything new that I might have missed previously to no avail.

Has anyone been to this area? Does anyone else agree that your own map shows details to support this new area?

Knightsaber Sith · Dec 10, 2006, 10:24 PM // 22:24

I'd have to say it's fake simply cause it's not on the map included with the CE. And if they had just added it in an update; you can bet it would've been in the update notes.

xis10al · Dec 10, 2006, 10:38 PM // 22:38

I've copied the map in question and opened it in Photoshop looking for any dead giveaways that it's a fake, and if it is, they took their time and did a great job of it.

Free Runner · Dec 10, 2006, 10:43 PM // 22:43

There is a passage going around to the left...although not explored this. There is something that looks like it up there on a clouded map.

Although Knightsaber brings up an excellent point of it not being on the CE map....unless they did add it in recently (and if so to what point?)

Any Grandmaster Cartographers who have explored up in that place?

Tobias Funke · Dec 10, 2006, 10:45 PM // 22:45

I'd have to say in my unexpert opinion that it just has a "fake look" to it. Also the fact that the person didn't say how to get there makes me dubious. At any rate you can get GMC without going there.

Knightsaber Sith · Dec 10, 2006, 10:51 PM // 22:51

Well here's a side by side with the CE map

the waterways look completely different within the big circular area so I'm still going with fake.

xis10al · Dec 10, 2006, 11:14 PM // 23:14

Unless getting there is from someplace obscure (like finding Dasha Vestibule) or there is a prerequisite, I haven't found out how to get there. I've done 99% of all the quests presently in game, but haven't yet achieved max lightbringer; so unless it's something obscure, it's not there. I should note that I've checked the following zones: Holdings of Chokhin, The Hidden City of Ahdashim, and Vehjin Mines. There was one quest in the Halls of Chokhin where, if you read the quest storyline, it talks about an ancient temple north of the Halls of Chokhin that was destroyed ages ago, which lended creditability to the area being there.

At this point, it's on the backburner for me. If someone else actually find it, please post. Thanks to everyone that lent their opinion, much appreciation.

Lavindathar · Dec 10, 2006, 11:19 PM // 23:19

I have completed every quest in NF, bar the DoA ones and whatever they open up. And ive not found a way there. But I'm not max Sunspear or Lightbrigner (8 and 4 respectively)

Zedekiah · Dec 10, 2006, 11:28 PM // 23:28

Anyone have the link to where this is posted on guild wiki?

xis10al · Dec 10, 2006, 11:37 PM // 23:37

# 22 Discovered new map part?
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Talk:Maps

Very bottom of page

Kook~NBK~ · Dec 11, 2006, 12:41 AM // 00:41

Here's my guess. It's a pic of the Hidden city of Ahdashim map using the U map while doing the Dasha Vestibule Mission. Reasons why I think so:

1. If it were the "M" map, there would be a name on it. - Names don't appear on the U map.

2. I looked at it on one of my Characters that I have gotten Protector title on, and on the "M" map, the Hidden City of Ahdashim shows all fogged in, but the title appears.

I'm going to check this later tonight, unless someone else beats me to it.

EDIT: THIS THEORY DID NOT PAN OUT. (If I had remembered what the mission was, I wouldn't even have posted it. - Senility strikes again!)

Tobias Funke · Dec 11, 2006, 12:56 AM // 00:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by xis10al

There was one quest in the Halls of Chokhin where, if you read the quest storyline, it talks about an ancient temple north of the Halls of Chokhin that was destroyed ages ago, which lended creditability to the area being there.

I followed that quest arc to a masters quest. The arc so far involves some lost scriptures from a temple in the north that the Margonites seem to want to get their hands on these scriptures. In the masters quest you have to defend 8 lvl 10 scholars from 12 groups of Margonites coming from 2 directions; i.e. I don't think I can hench it.

Anyway below is the quest diaogue. Judge for yourself.

Sounds to me like they're talking about Abbaddon and the Temple of the Six Gods in Gates of Madness (notice how often the hermit guys talk about the secrets of his god).

DeathandtheHealing · Dec 11, 2006, 12:57 AM // 00:57

it looks like he pasted the treasure room from the Hidden city onto the map.

milan · Dec 11, 2006, 01:04 AM // 01:04

If you look at the person who placed that note on wiki you'll see that he replied to the question about how he found it -

'I 'discovered' it te same way, all those wonderful item- and skill-icons find their way here..'

That would be by image manipulation....

Former Ruling · Dec 11, 2006, 01:25 AM // 01:25

Anyone just look at the picture?

It looks compeltely and utterly Fake. You don't even have to put it in photoshop...just LOOK at it...

Someone would have to give me better proof than that picture to try to convince me...

MegaMouse · Dec 11, 2006, 04:28 AM // 04:28

I have actualy completed that quest line to its end, it is henchable but barely. And no it doesn't take you to this area. I vote for fake myself.

Mega Mouse

Nickhimself · Dec 11, 2006, 04:31 AM // 04:31

<--- GM Elona Cartographer.

This is fake as of my 100% completion (about 3 days with my D after NF was released)

Shinto Sharingan · Dec 11, 2006, 05:48 AM // 05:48

Yeah, this is probably NOT fake, but just used an image editing program to sharpen the image and remove dust/clouds, becuase the outline of that place IS there.

-.- · Dec 11, 2006, 06:06 AM // 06:06

Reminds me of Heaven's Gate, lol.

Savio · Dec 11, 2006, 06:10 AM // 06:10

It's fake. Closed.

Dec 10, 2006, 10:15 PM // 22:15	#1
xis10al Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Sativa High Profession: N/Me	New Area (N of Holdings of Chokhin) - Real or Fake? Okay, recently on GuildWiki, someone posted the following map stating that they were playing around and came across a new area north of the Holdings Of Chokhin. Here's the link to the map. http://image.to/show.php/1439_elonanewpart.gif.html They don't mention how they happened to "discover" this new area, but looking at my own map, you can make out the details of what could be a real area. Since coming across this new map, I've went all through the Holdings of Chokhin and The Hidden City of Ahdashim looking for anything new that I might have missed previously to no avail. Has anyone been to this area? Does anyone else agree that your own map shows details to support this new area?

Dec 10, 2006, 10:51 PM // 22:51	#6
Knightsaber Sith Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: Few Fallen Heroes [FFH] Profession: W/E	Well here's a side by side with the CE map the waterways look completely different within the big circular area so I'm still going with fake. Last edited by Knightsaber Sith; Dec 10, 2006 at 10:54 PM // 22:54..

Dec 10, 2006, 11:28 PM // 23:28	#9
Zedekiah Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Gods Chosen Profession: N/Me	Anyone have the link to where this is posted on guild wiki? Last edited by Zedekiah; Dec 10, 2006 at 11:32 PM // 23:32..

Dec 11, 2006, 12:41 AM // 00:41	#11
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	Here's my guess. It's a pic of the Hidden city of Ahdashim map using the U map while doing the Dasha Vestibule Mission. Reasons why I think so: 1. If it were the "M" map, there would be a name on it. - Names don't appear on the U map. 2. I looked at it on one of my Characters that I have gotten Protector title on, and on the "M" map, the Hidden City of Ahdashim shows all fogged in, but the title appears. I'm going to check this later tonight, unless someone else beats me to it. EDIT: THIS THEORY DID NOT PAN OUT. (If I had remembered what the mission was, I wouldn't even have posted it. - Senility strikes again!) Last edited by Kook~NBK~; Dec 11, 2006 at 03:54 AM // 03:54..

Dec 11, 2006, 06:10 AM // 06:10	#20
Savio Teenager with attitude Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	It's fake. Closed. __________________ People are stupid.

Dec 10, 2006, 10:24 PM // 22:24	#2
Knightsaber Sith Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: Few Fallen Heroes [FFH] Profession: W/E	I'd have to say it's fake simply cause it's not on the map included with the CE. And if they had just added it in an update; you can bet it would've been in the update notes.

Dec 10, 2006, 10:38 PM // 22:38	#3
xis10al Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Sativa High Profession: N/Me	I've copied the map in question and opened it in Photoshop looking for any dead giveaways that it's a fake, and if it is, they took their time and did a great job of it.

Dec 10, 2006, 10:43 PM // 22:43	#4
Free Runner Forge Runner Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: GW2G Guild: Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]	There is a passage going around to the left...although not explored this. There is something that looks like it up there on a clouded map. Although Knightsaber brings up an excellent point of it not being on the CE map....unless they did add it in recently (and if so to what point?) Any Grandmaster Cartographers who have explored up in that place?

Dec 10, 2006, 10:45 PM // 22:45	#5
Tobias Funke Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: The Following of Xanthar Profession: Me/N	I'd have to say in my unexpert opinion that it just has a "fake look" to it. Also the fact that the person didn't say how to get there makes me dubious. At any rate you can get GMC without going there.

Dec 10, 2006, 11:14 PM // 23:14	#7
xis10al Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Sativa High Profession: N/Me	Unless getting there is from someplace obscure (like finding Dasha Vestibule) or there is a prerequisite, I haven't found out how to get there. I've done 99% of all the quests presently in game, but haven't yet achieved max lightbringer; so unless it's something obscure, it's not there. I should note that I've checked the following zones: Holdings of Chokhin, The Hidden City of Ahdashim, and Vehjin Mines. There was one quest in the Halls of Chokhin where, if you read the quest storyline, it talks about an ancient temple north of the Halls of Chokhin that was destroyed ages ago, which lended creditability to the area being there. At this point, it's on the backburner for me. If someone else actually find it, please post. Thanks to everyone that lent their opinion, much appreciation.

Dec 10, 2006, 11:19 PM // 23:19	#8
Lavindathar Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Manchester, England Guild: The Monstrous Fangs (fang) Profession: N/Mo	I have completed every quest in NF, bar the DoA ones and whatever they open up. And ive not found a way there. But I'm not max Sunspear or Lightbrigner (8 and 4 respectively)

Dec 10, 2006, 11:37 PM // 23:37	#10
xis10al Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Sativa High Profession: N/Me	# 22 Discovered new map part? http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Talk:Maps Very bottom of page

Dec 11, 2006, 12:57 AM // 00:57	#13
DeathandtheHealing Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: In a PVE GUILD YAY! :P Profession: Me/Mo	it looks like he pasted the treasure room from the Hidden city onto the map.

Dec 11, 2006, 01:04 AM // 01:04	#14
milan Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: BONE Profession: N/	If you look at the person who placed that note on wiki you'll see that he replied to the question about how he found it - 'I 'discovered' it te same way, all those wonderful item- and skill-icons find their way here..' That would be by image manipulation....

Dec 11, 2006, 01:25 AM // 01:25	#15
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	Anyone just look at the picture? It looks compeltely and utterly Fake. You don't even have to put it in photoshop...just LOOK at it... Someone would have to give me better proof than that picture to try to convince me...

Dec 11, 2006, 04:28 AM // 04:28	#16
MegaMouse Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: south mississippi Guild: Warriors Of Melos WOM Profession: E/N	I have actualy completed that quest line to its end, it is henchable but barely. And no it doesn't take you to this area. I vote for fake myself. Mega Mouse

Dec 11, 2006, 04:31 AM // 04:31	#17
Nickhimself Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Your face Guild: True Gods Of War [True] Profession: W/Mo	<--- GM Elona Cartographer. This is fake as of my 100% completion (about 3 days with my D after NF was released)

Dec 11, 2006, 05:48 AM // 05:48	#18
Shinto Sharingan Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Zealots of Shiverpeak Profession: W/	Yeah, this is probably NOT fake, but just used an image editing program to sharpen the image and remove dust/clouds, becuase the outline of that place IS there.

Dec 11, 2006, 06:06 AM // 06:06	#19
-.- Banned Join Date: Oct 2006	Reminds me of Heaven's Gate, lol.